Linsky here and welcome to this wonderful, absolutely lifechanging,
life- transforming conversation about fasting. And I’m going to preface it by saying that this will be life-changing.
It will be life transforming. And I’m super blessed and honored to be welcoming you um to this discussion.
Renee, you there my friend? I am here. Thank you so much for having me. I’m excited for this life-changing
conversation. We are not we are not sugar coating it. This is going to be really great. Cool. I really appreciate
it, Renee. Um, I’m going to go read your illustrious bio and then we’re going to run right into it. For those of you, if
you’ve unfortunately have lived under a rock and you don’t know who Renee is, here’s who this beautiful young lady is.
A longevity dietician, director of education at El Neutra, the makers of
Prolon and the Elnutra Health. So, that’s what I want to position this
whole thing as. Everybody, we’re going to learn from decades worth of research.
Um, tens of millions of dollars of research studies have been poured into this this fasting mimicking diet and
Renee is the spokesperson and the expert behind it. So, she has a master’s in longevity nutrition. She has helped
thousands literally thousands of individuals. She has hosted hundreds and hundreds of group fasts and she has
helped healthc care practitioners specifically harness the power of nutrition and longevity for their
patients. She hosts the longevity lab webinar series as and is a trusted voice
on nutrition panels, podcasts and wellness summits. And here you are to our natural living family known for
translating cutting edge science into very simple actionable strategies. and I can testify. She’s brilliant and
everyone’s going to understand everything, which is the takeaway. Um, she’s passionate to helping people live
longer and better and fasting is a big part of it. And so, I want to jump right
into this thing. What is FMD? What is FMD stand for? And how is it different
than water fasting and intermittent fasting, Renee? Absolutely. Okay, that is a loaded question to kick us off. So
fasting mimicking diet that is the FMD fasting mimicking diet because is
exactly like what it sounds like. It is allowing us to mimic a water only fast
but with food. So yes I said it. You are able to eat while you get the benefits
of water only fasting. It is very scientifically curated. So it’s not just
you can’t just eat anything. There are very specific foods in very specific amounts that you would eat over the
course of 5 days to get the benefits of one of these longer fasts. So, of
course, it differs from water only fasting in that you can eat. But another
thing that I’m really glad that you brought up is how does this differ from intermittent fasting? So, I mentioned
that the fasting mimicking diet is five days. And that is really, really important because once we hit around the
3-day mark, we actually turn something on that is not turned on with shorter
fasts or intermittent fasts like our 168 protocols or even our 24-hour fasting
protocols. And that thing that is turned on around that 3-day mark is known as
autophagy, also known as deep cellular cleanup. Also, I like to think of it
like a vacuum cleaner for ourselves. It is essentially just taking out the junk that accumulates over time. No matter
how healthy we are, we are all aging. We are all going to gradually accumulate junk at the cellular level. And
autophagy is that solution to help clear it out. And it’s kind of like that spring cleaning at a cellular level. So,
it is very, very impactful. And I’m sure we’ll unpack that a little bit more. But this is one of the biggest differences
between short-term intermittent fasting, which we consider anything under two days, and prolonged fasting, which is
over 3 days. And it’s pretty tough to convince anybody to do three plus day
water only fasts. So that’s where fasting mimicking diet comes into play. Not to mention it’s safer. Not to
mention, we’ll touch on some, you know, muscle protection stuff, but there’s a lot of reasons why fasting mimicking
diet has all of the science, all of the research, all of the support behind it because of what it can achieve that
intermittent fasting and water only fasting doesn’t quite do. So, with all
the group fasts that you’ve done, and you’ve walked thousands of people through this, in your opinion, what
makes this 5day experience such a game changer for people that are struggling
with stubborn fat, weight, um low energy, um even pain, inflammation? I
mean, what what do you think makes this thing click? Oh, man. There’s actually a lot of things that I think really is is
the difference here. One is the ease of the program. We’re all looking for something where we don’t have to think.
We don’t have to count every little thing. Um the fasting mimicking diet is designed to be very easy to follow. You
just get a box and off you are. Now when we look at this as to why it works at a more scientific level or biochemical
level, it’s I think because and based off of the research because uh one we
work at the cell cellular level. When we work at the cellular level, we are working at the most root cause approach,
right? That is really where everything stems from. They are the decision makers
of our whole body. Um, and you know, we’re made up of trillions of cells. So
work list impacted from a fasting mimicking diet um and even fasting in
general, we see that the list is very very long and it impacts so many
different systems. And so you’ll see the research in metabolic health of course
weight loss sure you mentioned inflammation where that is being tackled from a lot of different levels too. We
see improvements in healthy blood sugar. Um we see that there are also improvements um that we’re now starting
to see in skin health. Uh, I mean I could keep going but the list is long
and that’s again because we work from the most root cause approach and we’re really stepping back and letting our
body do the work. So you touched on autophagy. Can you explain really what’s
happening inside the body during this experience? Yeah. So autophagy is
essentially kind of like what I mentioned. It’s this vacuum cleaner for ourselves. Autophagy literally means uh
self eating. And so it is our body going in and eating the things that no longer
serve us. So those can be things like misfolded protein, um cellular organels
that don’t work as well anymore. And when that starts to accumulate and when we think have things that just don’t
work as well, of course, you know, it’s a downstream impact. Other things aren’t going to work as well. It can what we’ve
been able to start seeing is um that it can lead to chronic disease and that is
you know there are there is a many many wide ranging impacts there. So you know
it’s the the impact of autophagy is now really starting to be well understood
more and more across several disease states and general healthy aging across
the board. um again because it is at that cellular level and doing like a nice spring cleaning and allowing your
body once it does that spring cleaning to rebuild. So it’s not just letting
your body get rid of stuff but also allowing it to rebuild and rebuild new healthier better functioning components.
So why people is that the key thing why people feel so much better so quickly or
what is there something else going on in the body? There is so much going on. So autophagy is absolutely one of the
biggest differentiators, right? So this is something that really can almost only be tapped into through prolonged
fasting, but there’s a lot of other things that are going on too. So we see improvements in blood sugar management.
So we see even in patients that have for example type 2 diabetes, we’re seeing diabetes remission. So they’re coming
off their medications, their blood sugar is improving, their insulin resistance is improving. Now, even for patients
that are, you know, just starting to notice some of these kind of shifting maybe in the wrong direction. Maybe you
haven’t been diagnosed with type two diabetes or even pre-diabetes, but even just little shifts should be a flag to
start thinking, oh, okay, what can I do to help support my blood sugar to a
healthy level? If we let that go out of hand, I mean, it certainly leads to inflammation, but it can lead to a lot
of other uh negative things downstream. So management of of blood sugar is a
really big one here. Of course, weight loss um excess weight also is a big
trigger of additional inflammation. But what’s really cool about the weight loss that we see with fasting mimicking is
that it is muscle protective. And so not only are we losing weight, but we’re
losing the right kind of weight. We’re letting our muscles stay strong.
And we’re also tapping into some of the most dangerous fat which is especially around our tummy and our belly um known
as trunk fat and visceral fat which is the stuff around our organs. So you know
th those are I mean I I could honestly I could keep going but those are those are some of the areas that we see are being
tapped into and again have many downstream effects in in general though not even
fasting mimicking because there are a lot of different ways of fasting. Fasting has been not just a a healing
ritual but a spiritual ritual from the dawn of civilization. We see this in
ayvedic medicine. We see this in the Quran. We see this in the Bible. I mean regardless of someone’s background,
their faith, their their their ancestry, fasting has just been a part of life. So
just big picture, what would be your 30 or 60second elevator pitch why people
just should fast period? Like just why in general do you feel that this is just
a discipline that we need to start incorporating? I think that whether you are healthy or
not, fasting is an incredible tool to help your body essentially age
backwards. And we’ve actually been able to see this. I can talk about the biological age research but what it is
doing is that it is allowing your body to clean itself out and be starting from
a healthier base. So that is applicable to absolutely everybody because no
matter how much we want to avoid it, we are all aging. And so what this is doing is that it is working at a root cause.
It is allowing for downstream effects in so many different verticals. And so
whether you have something, you know, maybe in particular that you’re looking to adjust or if you’re just looking for
prevention, this is absolutely a great tool to to start from. Not to mention,
and I know this is now veering maybe from my 30 secondond pitch, but uh not to mention, you know, beyond the the
changes physically that we see. I love that you brought up the spiritual element because we see so many of these
other more behavioral changes. Um and and even some of this spiritual aspect.
Uh, and that’s probably because of um, you know, once you get to this the end
of your longer fasts, day three, four or five especially, we start to
feel really aware, alert, connected. Uh, and one probably because our our cells
in our body feels much cleaner. Uh but also because we’ve let our body go into a phase of ketosis and we have ketones
flowing through our veins and those are really well received by our brain and
allow us to be really hyper alert uh and and just kind of very even even like
energy the sensation of additional energy. All of those things are happening because those ketones are just
permeating our brain um and letting us use that energy really quickly and cleanly.
Folks, there’s one thing that I want us to think about and consider. Um the
amount of food that we have at our disposal is
unbe, decades, centuries, thousands of years ago. we most people and and I want
to say this sensitively because there are people that are hungry right now even in America and I get that um and
other cultures but by and large if you’re watching this on the internet right now you have enough money to
afford most people would think um an abundance of food
um whether it’s good quality food or not good quality food that’s a whole another topic but the reality is just walking up
and down Walmart walking go to Costco you’ll see just an unbelievable amount.
And very few of us know what hunger is like in a good way. So, thank God for that. I mean, thank God for that. Yet,
there’s this burden that has been placed on our body because our body is constantly in
this state of metabolizing food. And do we ever give ourel a break? Right? Do you ever give your body
a minute just to be like, “Hey, this is your time to rest and digest that
parasympathetic mode that many of you have heard about as you gone through just a variety of documentaries and
summits and podcasts as you experience this natural lifestyle, this natural health world that we’re in. Everyone
talks about it, right? You got the sympathetic fight or flight and you got this parasympathetic rest and digest.” Well, how do you digest properly when
you’re constantly feeding ourselves? We eat typically most people too much and we eat not just too much but too often.
We always have food. So intermittent fasting is taking people on by storm because like hey imagine giving yourself
like 12 to 16 hours where you’re not eating and you just put your eating window in a short period of time. Like
that’s step one. But what about giving yourself a day or maybe even two days
without quote food. And what does that do? It completely it’s like a reset
button to your body. So Renee, I want you to walk people through a little bit of what fasting mimicking does because
it it’s almost too good to be true. And when I first was told about it, I I was very much a skeptic. I was like, “This
doesn’t make sense.” And then I went to PubMed and then I just let the research
speak to me. And I wanted to do that even before we talked. And I wanted to do that even before I I did my first
experience. And I wanted to do that before I went deeper into this this concept because I wanted to at least
understand the scientific backing behind it. And then once that made sense to me, like okay, I get it. Like I get the
research, I respect the research. I I respect the literally tens of millions
of dollars that have gone into this topic, which is, you know, a drop in the bucket compared by the way of what big
pharma invests in the next drug that’s going to come out in the market. And I’m like, “Okay, I get this.” And then I
experienced it for myself. And then I became a believer. I’m like, “Wow, I’m
feeling literally feeling emotionally, mentally, spiritually, physically like I’m water fasting. I’ve never
experienced anything like that other than water fasting in my life.” And I was like, I got to share this with our
audience. Our natural living family is going to, pun intended, eat this up.
So, walk us through what people are doing on this thing. Like what is
fasting mimicking diet? Like what are they eating? How often are they eating? Um kind of go through a little bit of
the nuts and bolts of it. Yeah, absolutely. So, the great part about the fasting mimicking diet is that it was
designed to really help you get food every single meal of the day. So, you
are and you’re eating whole food. Okay? So, I want to remind people that this is not going to be broths and teas. We’re
talking, you know, you’re getting a bar for breakfast, a nut-based bar. You have
a snacks like kale crackers, olives, um we even have a little chocolate crisp
for your evening snack. You are having soups for lunch and for dinner. And so,
you are truly eating, you know, three whole meals plus snacks. Plus, you get uh teas and you get supplements and you
get absolutely everything that you need, which is really important because also it helps you shift out anything else
that you need to do for that week. You don’t have to cook anything. You don’t have to prep anything. You don’t have to buy anything. Uh so it really makes it
really straightforward and simple. But I I can tell you from experience after doing this 15 times, the food is really
honestly quite good. On top of that, we just came out and I know Dr. Z is very
excited about our brand next gen varietal. It is organic
soups. They are fully hydrated, ready to go. It genuinely is just open, pour, and
enjoy. It is they are they’re so good and they were actually designed by a Michelin chef. So, I really, you know,
we we are putting where our money where our mouth is there. That’s awesome.
Um, you mentioned something that I want to underscore and not I guess I I I
don’t want to take away from the benefit and I don’t want to diminish this. Like
you you you mentioned the time aspect of it. Um,
one of the things if you’ve never done a fast before, I want you to just imagine a world
where imagine a world where you’re about to go on a vacation and instead of like having to
go rummage through your closet, rummage through your medicine cabinet and all
your little kits and all the bags and spend hours and hours and hours packing. Imagine a world where you have a an
assistant that lays out everything for you, perfectly folds everything for you,
and says, “You want me to put it in the bag for you? Because I can.” And have
everything be perfectly packed, perfectly ready, so all you have to do is get your bag, walk down the door, and
go to the airport. What about all that time deciding? And maybe you’re like me and
you get a little bit of like decision anxiety at times or just decision confusion. You’re like, “What am I going
to eat today? What am I going to wear today?” Imagine a world where you don’t have to think about any of that. You
don’t have to think about your food. You don’t even have to think. You don’t have to worry about the prep, the shopping,
the purchasing, the cleanup. I’m very minimal on this. And like all that time
and energy is just spared. You’d be surprised how much time and
energy it takes to do all of that. And not just the physical cutting and the chopping and the walking or the buying
or whether you’re Amazoning or you’re door dashing, all the all that time to prep and eat, but the emotional piece
that goes with it, right? And the stress of it all and the anxiety of like you
got the kids pulling at your, you know, your your sleeves and all this other kind of fun stuff. That right there for
me has always been one of my favorite things about water fasting and just now the fasting mimicking program is the
time I get back. It’s like I get an extra two hours a day back to my life.
We all have 24 hours a day, but not really. When you’re when you’re doing this, you get 26. It’s kind of like a
cheat code. And what are you gonna do? That’s why I want to paint the picture. So, as I asked before I ask Renee your
next question about like, you know, Renee, I want to ask you about how people feel like hed, hungry, tired, all that kind of stuff. Like, how do people
like quote are you detoxing through this? Um, but just imagine a life
because that’s what’s beautiful about this. That’s what I fell in love with about this is having everything prepared
for me. So, I go to my day one box. It’s like boom, breakfast, boom, lunch, boom, dinner, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And I’ll tell you one thing now, and this is really important, too. You start
getting emotionally detected from all of that. You start emotionally detaching
yourself from the experience of eating, from the need to eat all the time, from
like the cravings of the food that might make you have that second, third piece of cake or bread that you shouldn’t. And
that’s where that freedom comes. you get you break that because once the decision is made for you and you submit to that
and once you follow through it’s like oh I do have more choice I eat to live I
don’t live to eat I’ll say that again do you eat to live or do you live to eat
and that’s been a huge benefit in my opinion of this whole experience and have it just be ready done for you and
by the way not at a premium cost that’s which I’m shocked like I’m shocked prolong on charges what they do because
they could easily charge double easily. The amount of money that I was saving just by going through the program was
you know 100 plus $200 a week I was saving just by not making and preparing let alone my own time or my wife’s time
and our time. So with that, Renee, talk us through some of like the experiences
that people go through, you know, like again, hungry, tired, brain foggy, like
what are people experiencing typically as you’ve gone, you know, you walk through thousands of people through this? Um, what are they experiencing?
Yeah. So I think the beauty of the fasting mimicking diet is that it is designed to take off a lot of the stress
of water only fasting which includes some of those feelings of uh of hunger
and tiredness etc. Um what we often times see with with fasting mimicking
diets is that actually people feel more energized usually that that can that
usually will happen around day four definitely around day five and that’s because when we’re in this fasted state
there are all of these changes happening at uh at you know this biochemical level
where we might have higher amounts of even adrenaline and some of these like alert hormones. Uh we also see again
with those ketones, those are really good at keeping your mind sharp. So I
have a lot of people that ask me like am I going to be able to work? Am I going to be able to do you know is be alert?
And I would say if anything I find that a lot of people notice that they are even more alert especially in the later
end. Now I will never lie to anybody. You know usually if you’re going to have a tough day um it’s going to be either
day two or day three. And by day I mean like it’s usually 15 minutes of maybe a little bit just kind of getting over the
hump into your really really deep fast. So but again really really shortlived.
We’ve done tons of safety and just experience studies with this with
patients across the spectrum. Like we’ve you know the the program was originally designed for patients with with cancer
and in oncology care. So you can imagine very very careful in making sure that there were very limited symptoms um if
if none you know so I think that’s really important for people to know is that don’t be scared like dive in and
get excited because what you’ll probably find especially near the tail end of your fast I notice they actually call it
keto euphoria because your your senses are heightened. I smell things stronger.
I see things brighter. I, you know, you really just feel like you’re on a on a high. So, it’s it’s really really
incredible what happens when you let your body really clean things out and and just run um on on this ketosis at
the at the tail end. Hey, I want to ask you to do something, y’all. Um there’s you mentioned something. Um there’s
certain things we can’t say here, and I’ll just be blunt. We’re not allowed just because we’re not allowed even
though the research suggests it. Um, Renee used the Cword that I won’t repeat, but I want you to do something.
If you’re interested, type up, can fasting, mimicking diet help with, and
put in whatever it is and do a Google search on it and let Google tell you what the research says. So, I just put
that up there. Can fasting, mimicking diet help with cancer? And let the research speak for itself. Um, that’s
something I want to more empower you. And if you are AI savvy, go to chat GPT
because chat GPT can cater a lot of different research from a lot of different ways and be like look I only
want something evidence-based like really make that AI um hold the line to what you want evidence-based something
on human trials ask it the animal trials kind of go through that route. You’d be surprised at a lot of the things that we
can’t say, but one thing we can say legally and we can say confidently, inflammation, pain, weight loss, we can
say mental health, emotional health, um so many different things that are helping people with their cardio
metabolic risk factors, blood pressure, blood sugar, I mean drastically reduces your risk of conditions that are
associated with that, right? So just think about obesity, diabetes, fatty liver, like just the list goes on, you
know, and not only that, but giving you a reset to how you handle food because
what we’re looking for is lifelong transformation. And so you mentioned a couple things about energy. Maybe I
could give you a couple quick popcorn questions. Caffeine, alcohol, yes or no?
Definitely no on alcohol. And ideally on, you know, the two bookend days of your fast, exclude alcohol. So even the
day before and the day after, no alcohol. That will just set you up for success. Now, if you absolutely need to
have a glass of wine the day before you’re going to start your fast, it’s not going to make it or break it. It’s really important just that in those 5
days of your fast, you don’t add anything. Now, caffeine. Caffeine, um,
ideally, we want to exclude it. Uh, but for those of us who are, you know, there
we’re really really needing that caffeine, we do allow up to 140 milligrams of caffeine a day. That’s
about one to two cups of coffee. Just make sure you don’t add anything to it.
So, uh, no milk, no sugar, nothing. Just have your coffee black or your green tea
as is. Nothing else. Okay. And for people that are just really struggling,
this is going to happen, y’all. For some of you, you just want something in your mouth. Literally anything. Um, what if
someone’s like, “Look, I just want to chew on some romaine lettuce. Zero calories. Can I do it? Give some advice
on adding anything to the additional protocol. Okay, you’re you’re opening up my little box of secrets that we don’t
usually share here. So, uh, generally we say stick to the box. Do not add absolutely anything. Now, there are
three little secret add-ons that have been approved by Dr. Walter Longo himself, the founder and creator of
Fasting Mimicking Diet. Um, and they are either two thin slices of apple or one
celery stock or one Persian cucumber. Now, it they seem like little things and
but you can have one of those each day if you feel like you really need it, but I will tell you that I have had many
people go through a fasting mimicking diet. They’ve had those two thin slices of apple and all of a sudden like
everything is great. they’re off to the races and they never look back again. So, um you know, just have those in your
back pocket and ready to go if you feel even a little bit worried that you might need it. Okay. I was surprised at that.
I thought you were going to say stick to the box because that um All right. Well, I I don’t know. I would encourage you
all um not to do that only because um there’s something to be said. Just think
of this in this way. If you could do it, you could do it. checking this off your box and saying I did this the right way
is like a Mount Everest type of marathon experience and I just want to encourage you with that and personally um I don’t
know I love that aspect of it so couple more quick little things about just safety in general older people younger
people walk us through contraindications like definitively like for sure who
should not do this without question and then cover some of the gray area because I know there’s certain things we have to
say but also like look let common sense be your guide. So definitely like who’s the contraindicated people that like
there’s no just don’t do this. Yeah. So, uh, anybody who is either pregnant or breastfeeding, anybody who’s under 18,
anybody who is has a history of eating disorders, anybody who has a BMI under
18.5, anybody with an allergy to nuts, and anybody with an endstage health
condition. So, we’re talking endstage renal um, you know, cardiac failure type
level uh, conditions. Those are all going to be no. Otherwise, um you know,
honestly, we we like to say that it’s pretty much it’s good for almost everybody and even again I I do like to
reiterate that even healthy people should be doing the fasting mimicking diet. It is it is beneficial across the
lifespan. Now, one of those uh little additions for across the lifespan is
over 65. We always get this question, I’m over 65. I know you guys used to say like can maybe not. Um, so I want to
touch on that. Uh, those over 65, just make sure to either speak with your physician or that you’re generally, uh,
considered healthy, no, you know, medications. And if you are, then speak to your physician. Uh, but what we’re we
just really want to make sure that, um, there is no, you know, muscle wasting, which can become more pronounced as we
age, uh, and that you are generally healthy and ready to take on the fast. But just speak to a physician and you
should be all good to go. So give us two protocols. Give us the protocol for the
wellness individual. You just said how often should they do this on a regular basis, annual, whatever. And then
someone who’s really trying to um treat or let’s say um maybe we could call it
uh a condition whether it’s obesity, diabetes, you name fill in the blank. If
you have something that you’re really trying to to overcome. Um so wellness first and then non-wwellness.
Okay. So for general wellness, as you mentioned, that’s going to be the under the prolong world. Uh you can do one kit
for three months in a row. So one kit a month for three months in a row, five days a month only. And then you’re going
to transition into what we call the maintenance phase where you’re just doing it every 3 to four months. Just
one kit every 3 to four months. So that’s only three to four times a year
moving forward. super sustainable, really easy to fit into your to your
year, you know. So, that is going to be our generally healthy population. Now,
if you have uh some metabolic, you know, some things that are a little bit veering out of range,
maybe you’ve noticed you have a little bit of high blood pressure, high cholesterol, something along those lines, um you might want to go check out
the El Neutra Health World uh and check out the metabolic health program. there.
You’re going to do four cycles in a row. But not just that, you’ll also get additional support from a one-on-one
dietitionian. You’ll get some lab work. It gets just a little bit more support to get you through the program as safely
as possible. And then you did mention type 2 diabetes. And that protocol, that’s where we’ll go up to six cycles
in a row. And there we also on top of the dietitians, on top of the labs, we also do medication management because
the beauty of the fasting mimicking diet is because it works. so well is that
people actually have to come off of their medications. So to do this safely, you need somebody to be able to take
those away. So those are going to be all of your different kind of intro protocols anywhere from three to six in
a row and then everybody goes to the same just three times a year. That’s it. And there’s a diabetes kit, correct?
Because the current one right now is a little higher in complex or simple
sugars. Is that am I right on that? Yeah. So the the um metabolic kit is a
little bit lower in carbohydrates, a little bit higher in fat just to accommodate for that. Absolutely. And so
I would I would urge people to go check that out. And I know Dr. Z, you have a nice link for everybody. Um I think if
you just look at the drop down, you can actually even select Dr. Z’s name there. Okay, cool. And we’ll put up that link
in just a second unless you want to um well soon. We we we we definitely want to put up the link that people can join.
We have a group fast coming up and this is something that we’re going to be doing on a regular basis and I want to echo what you just said Rene because
this is really important. Um when I was getting my continuing education credits uh a couple years ago, one of the
nutrition professors um was clear. He said males especially males need to fast
like water fast for three days every quarter. He goes that’s something males
need. It’s just your evolutionary way God made you. And he explained it. It’s beyond me and I’m not a nutritionist but
he explained why but you mentioned this quarterly cycle that’s backed by a lot of research. So what I’m saying is this
isn’t just you know prolon trying to sell the product. This is like look we
have been created and we have evolved for thousands of years to this position
where we need to go without food for a certain amount of time on a regular basis. And what this diet does, this
program, you get to eat just enough to stay under that fasting radar. So the
body thinks it’s really wonder. It’s fascinating. It tricks your body into thinking that you’re fasting. Yet women
are different. And this is what the professor said, women, just like Dr. Mindy Peltz, many of you know, fasting
like a girl, women are not the same as men. So this this professor was very emphatic. Women should not water fast
the same like men do at all. it could really affect their hormones, their estrogen levels. And then that’s where I
love this program because this is equally safe for men and women, which is brilliant because it gives women the
nutrition that they need. So it doesn’t alter their endocrine cycle and they
could still maintain a vibrant health. So it’s like, wow, it’s best of both worlds. So once a quarter, um, and
here’s a cool thing. I don’t even have to say if you can afford it. Like this isn’t anything extra. It literally is
you’re not buying food for a week. So what is your budget for food every week? That’s what you’re replacing for this.
And hopefully it’s a good clean healthy diet, right? Hopefully you’re adding as many non-GMO organic items to your to
your diet. And that’s where I want to encourage you to get the Prolon um um
the organic version, the special special clean version. I have a couple more questions, but we’re wrapping this up.
like I really just appreciate this. Um Renee, I want you to please walk people through um what what it is. How can they
get involved in the group fast? And then I got the book or I got the box. I want to walk people through this a little
bit. So you tell me what what you want to do. You want to walk people through the box or you want to walk people through the the upcoming because we’re
going to have one on a regular basis. So we’re not even going to mention dates because this is something that we’re doing here at National Living Family.
So, whenever you sign on, you’re going to be able to join an upcoming group
fast that’s being facilitated by professionals and nutritionists at Prolon, which is like, thank God. I
mean, this is like free coaching, free support, free accountability. Like, people charge buku bucks for this, by
the way, and you’re getting it as part of this wonderful deal. So, um, how would you like to to land the plane?
Yeah, let’s Well, first let’s just share a little bit about this group fast, how people can get involved because as you
mentioned, this really is such an incredible opportunity to to be
connected to your peers and to get immediate answers and immediate support as you go through this program. Uh what
I find without fail is that when we do this together, there’s always going to be a handful of people that have done,
you know, a dozen of these. There’s going to be a people who are just doing this for the very first time. and just working together and getting that
support, it just makes the whole experience so much more enjoyable. And so I would urge you to to dive in and
and to be and participate in these group fasts. So um what I’ll do is I’m going
to go ahead and share my screen so that you can see how to get involved with these group fasts. Um now Dr. Z shared
that yes, you honestly you’ll probably save money because on top of already the
low price of the fasting mimicking diet. Um he is giving an additional up to 25%
off with his link there. So when you purchase, no matter when you purchase because as Dr. Z mentioned, we’re going
to be doing these periodically uh you are going to be automatically entered to join the group best. So, uh
just go ahead uh take a look at that QR code and join. Now, the QR code that I
have listed here is for the prolon kit. Uh you’ll notice that below you see the
prolonglife.com/dereicz. That is going to be for prolon. Now, if you are curious in doing the metabolic health or
the diabetes program, that link is below. It’s the
l-nutrahealth.comericzalinsky. So, uh, whichever program or product fits better
for you, go ahead and explore that. Um, and we will see you in the group fast
when you’re ready to dive in. So, uh, that is just how you can participate in
the group fast. It’s as easy as that. And Dr. Z, why don’t you take it from
here to share what else you’d like to uh to show? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, um, I want
everyone to be able to see the box. So, I want to be able to show Can you maybe unshare for a quick second? We’ll put that up, guys. We’ll put it back up. So,
this is the box. And And which one is this called again? Not the advanced. It’s called Next. NextG. So, this is the
NextG. Um, the one thing I love about this is all the questions you have about
how to begin the fast, how to end the fast, and everything is right here. Everything is in this guide book. And
it’s fascinating for those people who just want to be able to open up and be like, I’m in and I have all the
different steps that I have because it’s right here. So, how do I begin the
program? Talks about what foods to stay away from. How to begin the program. Again, let me recommend you don’t want
to have like a 20 oz porter steak and drink a bottle of wine before the night before you do this. Like I would
recommend personally you start with a heavily vegetarian meal. Um definitely
for dinner if not the whole day before you eat because you just want to give your digestive system a little bit of a
break. That’s what I would personally recommend and everything. One thing I love about it, it reminds you of all the
wonderful things that Renee was talking about. What happens in day one, you’re transitioning to a fastid state. Day
two, you run into ketosis. Day three is when you hit autophagy. J4 is where everything starts. Cellular rejuvenation
and then it goes on and on and on. So everything is here. Food
prep, discussion, how to break the fast and everything. But here’s the key and
this is what I love about this. This is your lifeline. This one little sheet. And I know it’s a little blurry, but
it’s okay because you’re going to get a you’re going to get this. It explains everything. What’s in day one? You go to
your day one box. And I found it so I just remember just feeling so empowered
that I did not have to stress. I did not have to worry. Again, y’all, I have seven kids and I’m being pulled in a
million directions at all times. I really am in a good way, right? And um
to be able to be like, “Hey, Sabrina, I have your her support.” Because she’s not able to do this because she’s been, you know, pregnant or nursing pretty
much for 17 years straight. So, she has to do a modified ver version of this.
And I’m like, “Hey, you know what? Make less dinner for me. Don’t include me in the meals. I’m going to do this thing.”
So, I go and I pick out my day one box and everything is here for me. Literally everything. And I just follow. I just
follow along. And it tells me what to have for breakfast, tells me what to have for lunch, for maybe a snack or
dinner. And one question I had and I’ve had because we’ve done this this type of
Q&A before, me and Renee, and we’ve talked to some folks and a question that came up was, “Hey, can I just have all
the food at the same time?” And that’s not advisable for a variety of reasons. So, I want to hear Renee what your
feedback would be like, “Hey, I just want to eat all of this now. I’m really hungry.” What is your thought about that
for the person who’s thinking intermittent fasting? I just want to eat one meal a day. Can I just essentially
fill up on the box? How would you advise on that? So the the research that we’ve
done doesn’t have any restriction on how you break it up among the day. So hypothetically speaking, sure, you could
do that. Now, is that the advised way to do it? No. Um, it is far more
comfortable to split it throughout the day. You’ll probably notice that you have more success just in getting
through the day. It is all designed to be fasting mimicking. So it doesn’t matter if you just lump it all at the
end of the day. You’re you’re in this fasted state no matter how you break it up. So do it in the way that is the most
comfortable way for you to get through the day and that will make you the most successful. That’s a good answer. I
appreciate that and I appreciate everyone’s nuance. If you’ve trained yourself to intermittent fast and
literally just have one 20 or 2,000 calorie meal a day or something, then
you might find it a little bit different to do this because you’re going to be having a couple different meals a day.
However, I want to caution you because if you are in that mindset where you intermittent fast and you eat 2,00 to
2500 calories at one sitting and then you don’t eat for 23 hours, that’s not the same. You’re not going to get that
caloric boost. So you might find yourself crashing later on in the day that you’re not used to. So I want to
encourage y’all just try it. The first day especially because the first day is a little more food, right? The first day
has um a couple hundred extra calories than what days 2 through five had. So try the first day. And but one thing
though too, maybe you’d rather start out with soup. I found that like one morning it was chili. I just wanted to have
comfort food. I wanted to start off with soup. I didn’t want to have the bar. Um, but anyway, the food is fantastic like
um Renee was saying and I personally enjoyed the flavor of it. It’s very simple and I want to encourage people to
really embrace your taste buds getting reset because you’ll find when you come
off of this, just like water fasting, you won’t need that extra tablespoon of
sugar, those extra five pumps at Starbucks of sweetener. you won’t need that extra 10 shakers of table salt to
make your food taste good anymore. You like start to taste how you should be tasting. It’s crazy how desensitized our
um taste buds have gotten just because of the flavor overload. So, um that’s it. And then we got the rest of the days
right here. So, Renee, if you could put up the um uh the QR code again, that’d be cool. I appreciate it. That way, in case people want to get it. But y’all,
having everything in the box laid out for you is super super exciting for me
and super easy. Um, and let’s point out too, um, this is everything. Like, it’s
everything and I want to encourage you to get the nextgen. It’s a couple extra
dollars. It is, yet I feel it’s worth it. and if you can’t afford it um
because it’s organic and it’s just the the original prolon was really good,
really helpful, really healthy, but this just goes to another level. And um if
you can, great. If it’s just if that extra $30, $40 is out of your budget,
then I totally understand. I respect that. Go get the original prolon. But if you could consider getting three kits,
consider committing to the the the next couple months. Consider doing this once
a month for the next 3 to four months, especially if you’re looking to get a
drastic drastic shift in your in your weight loss journey. Um if you’re
looking to absolutely get a grip of your blood sugar, your blood pressure. um a
good friend of mine, mid20s, just a young guy, just dangerously high blood pressure,
dangerously high. And this is one of the things that I’m recommending that he does. It’s like, look, you have to
consider drastically changing your diet, buddy. And this could help. So Renee,
I’m hoping we can end with this. um for people specifically looking for lifelong
transformation. Um, can you speak a little bit to like look, yes, you’re going to lose a couple pounds or maybe a
little bit more like, but walk people through a little bit of the expectations of what they can experience during this
5-day journey, but more importantly, five-day journey, month after month after month and after doing this every
quarter, what can they really expect? What can they look forward to? Let’s end with a little bit of hope. Yeah,
absolutely. I mean, first there, as I mentioned, the results are very
holistic. So some of the things that we’ve seen with just five days, okay, so let’s just start with even just the
first five days, we’ve seen improvements in skin health, less fine lines, less uh
more better skin hydration. That’s even just after 5 days. Those behavior changes that you’ve mentioned with the
energy, with the motivation, all of those even just after five days. Now, you do this for three cycles in a row.
We’ve seen lasting and very important. I’m glad you brought that up. lasting weight loss, lasting improvements to
metabolic health. Uh we’ve seen 2.5 years of biological age reversed. That’s
just with those three cycles. Now, thankfully, you also brought up what happens if we do this three times a
year. Okay, let’s call it 20 years because we’ve done this research and now we see 11 years of biological age
reversed. With these 20 years, we see these really incredible prevention metrics where we see that the risk for
uh chronic conditions from cancer, cerebrovascular disease, cardioabolic
etc. anywhere from six to 33%
reduction. Uh these are these are these really incredible prevention metrics. So, you know, this is little to really
incredible huge results across the board. Whatever you know you’re you’re interested in. I love that you said go
type in fasting mimicking diet for blank. Check it out. See what it can do. But again, when we work at that root
cause approach, there’s a lot that can be done. So, check it out. That’s the that’s the only
thing you can do. See for yourself. Rene, I think of a friend. Um, and my
heart breaks to even share the story, but I I know a lot of you can relate to it. Real big guy. Um, just a big man,
just linebacker kind of, you know, looks like a gladiator. Um, loved his barbecue,
right? Went to my Southern Baptist church that we go to. Uh, great guy, lovable. and uh a few months ago ended
up dying in his sleep because of a heart attack and like everyone the first
symptom of the heart attack is the heart attack. Very few warning signs of course obviously his doctor was trying to
encourage him to lose some weight. Um but he was known, right, known um
lovingly as the guy who prepared some of the best barbecue at church and everyone loved to eat his food and and
um you know when I I look at the situation and I think to myself, a man
60 years old um ended up marrying a woman, beautiful woman that was a bit
younger than him, second marriage, had three little girls, and he’s left his
wife and his three little girls. And I wonder and I I know there’s a genetic
component and I know that there sometimes things happen. Yet I wonder, you know, if there was a different
lifestyle, if if there was a different relationship with food, you know, if he
didn’t have that extra 75 pounds kind of like creating that burden on his body,
would that have happened? You know, what would have that looked like? And it’s not to point the finger at anyone or
anyone who’s lost a loved one or yourself at all. Yet I wonder when when
Renee shares these these these data driven
statistics that show how fasting specifically through this diet this or this program this fasting mimicking
program has extend has put people at an infinitely less
risk of developing some sort of chronic disease which then will extend life. I
wonder what would happen to what would happen to our loved ones? What would
happen to us if we shift and change and stop this cycle? And for so many of our
loved ones who are struggling, oh, I know I got to do this. I know I got to stop that. I know that. I know this. Like the once the excuses stop and once
the energy comes, once the weight starts to get shed away, once the emotional and
the mental peace is restored and once we have the confidence that we can live a healthier life and it’s not overtly
complicated, I wonder is this going to change how and how long and the quality
of life that we have as a people? I’m convinced the answer is yes. And that’s
why I’ve been doing what I’ve been doing now for the last 22 years. That’s why we
teach this stuff. That’s why we host wonderful people like Renee to share this message. I
mean, this in my opinion is a this can be a literal life or death discussion
for people. And if you’re at a risk, if you know you’re at risk because of your
blood pressure, your blood sugar, your weight, if you know you’re at risk, you
need to do something. And God willing, if you have
a good relationship with your doctor, let them know that you want to do this. Get their stamp of approval just to
check the boxes. Be like, “Hey, I want to do this thing. Can you monitor my numbers? Can you check out? Make sure
I’m in good shape.” And do this. Just commit. Again, it’s not going to cost
you any money more than what you’re buying in food. So, take your budget from your food and put it into this food
and see what happens. And and hopefully you’re like the hundreds and hundreds of people that have come, thousands that
have come and said, “Look what happened. I’m off my blood pressure meds or look what happened to my diabetes or look
what happened to my weight.” I hope your biggest problem is what do I do with this loose skin? Because that’s a
problem. We can help you with that. By the way, my wife has a protocol, like a skin protocol. I hope your biggest problem is I got to buy new clothes
because I just lost three sizes, four sizes, five sizes. I hope that’s your new
problem. I hope that in a good way, right? Those are fun problems to fix.
And so, I want to leave you all with that. And so, Renee, thank you so much. Um, this can be absolutely life-changing
for people. And I’ve always struggled recommending fasting because how do I do
it? What do I do? It’s so hard not to eat. Why do I, you know, it’s always been a sensitive topic for us and for
our followers because it’s like, yes, we know what the Bible says. We know we’re supposed to fast, but it’s so so hard.
And for you guys, I want to thank y’all. I want to thank Prolon. Um, I want to thank just the decades worth and
literally what 6570 million worth of research poured into this program. It’s unbelievable. Um, I just want to thank
you because you’ve given people like me and our community hope that we can get the benefits of
fasting without having to completely forego food in a way that’s sustainable.
So hopefully now we’ll never look back. Anyway, I don’t want to get preaching because I have a tendency to
do that. So I want to end with this. So again, I respect your time. I so much love and appreciate um your service, Renee, and what you do. Um, anything
you’d like to to end with? You know, I think that you nailed it. And I don’t even want to take anything
away from the way that you concluded that. I would just urge people to to just explore, give it a shot. You even
just one 5day cycle, I think, will really change a lot of people’s uh
perspective of what they thought this could do. It is truly incredible and uh
the science really speaks for itself. Uh I will say though that on top of what
you shared that uh lifestyle absolutely makes a difference. It is sometimes
hard. I as a dietician I all the time of course I want people to change their diet every day but this is an offering
that lets you make a very impactful change with 5 days. A grand total maybe
15 to 20 days a year. So, I think that this is really if if you’re not sure where to start, if we can give you an
option that you can start with just five days, like this is really like such a gift um that so much so much benefit can
come from a relatively short period of time. Uh you can do anything for five days. So, I agree. I I hope I see you
all in the group fast. I will be there right there with you. That’s it, folks. Check it out. Go to
prolonlife.comdericz and um join our next upcoming group fast. Um can’t wait
can’t wait to see you and as always this is Dr. Eric Sinsky. My hope and prayers that you and your family truly experience abundant life and I’m
convinced that this could help you. Hopefully you can join us. Talk to you soon.
