We’re told that “olding” is just part of life. But maybe it’s something we can prevent.
Dr. Z sits down with longevity expert Dr. Isaac Jones, founder of Elevays and host of the Longevity Summit, to reveal how faith, forgiveness, and cutting-edge science can help you reverse biological aging and protect your heart.
Discover how the cellular breakdown behind disease can be delayed. Dr. Jones shares how emotional peace, coherent breathing, and healing past trauma can literally reshape your heart and extend your life. He also unpacks the latest breakthroughs in regenerative medicine, peptides, and personalization that are revolutionizing longevity.
Whether you’re just starting your natural health journey or seeking deeper healing, this episode will inspire you to breathe deeper, forgive freely, and live the abundant life God created you for.
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Episode Highlights
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:02 Listener Q and A: Natural pain and inflammation relief for arthritis
- 05:45 Who is Dr. Isaac Jones
- 08:34 Longevity is the future of medicine
- 09:52 What we mean by olding and how to prevent it
- 11:57 The trillion-dollar longevity industry
- 14:15 How peptides help the body heal naturally
- 17:22 Problems with long-term GLP-1 use
- 20:14 Emotional roots of disease and trauma recovery
- 22:48 The importance of forgiveness for health
- 24:07 Movement, balance, and strength as anti-aging tools
- 26:23 How toxins, metals, and parasites drive inflammation
- 30:37 The dangers of hidden indoor pollution
- 33:48 Why breathing patterns impact your heart health
- 36:42 The tortoise principle for longer life
- 39:29 Exercise snacking boosts heart function
- 42:06 AI for personalized health care
- 44:49 Simple daily steps to increase VO₂ max
- 47:18 Steward of your body
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[00:00:00] Dr. Isaac Jones: And I think if you really look at heart disease and emotion like in the connection of heart disease with emotions. Like, what is the biggest thing that can actually impact your emotional health? And its breathing, right?
[00:00:12] It’s how you breathe. It’s the ability to get into coherent breathing, which is six seconds in and six seconds out, and methodically breathing, you know, in a way that creates coherence. And a lot of us don’t recognize that breathing controls our heart rate. So if we breathe in and hold our breath, our heart is getting compressed and our heart rate will actually slow down. If we breathe out, and then we hold, like, hold our breath out, our heart actually starts to pump faster, right?
[00:00:43] So. There’s actually like a, a science behind how we breathe and the impact that it has on the parasympathetic nervous system, which is directly related to your heart. So if you’re always in sympathetic dominance, which is typically when people are breathing quickly and and fast, which is oftentimes connected to their emotions and the way that they’re thinking in a day.
[00:01:05] Dr. Z: Mm-hmm.
[00:01:06] Dr. Isaac Jones: That actually directly impacts your heart health because you’re then in sympathetic dominance. What happens with sympathetic dominance is your heart starts to beat faster. Your beats per minute go up, and then the more your heart, you know, the more you breathe and the faster your heart beats, the shorter your life is gonna be.
[00:01:26] Dr. Z new: Hey friends, this is Dr. Eric Zielinski. Most people just call me Dr. Z. Welcome to the Natural Living Family Podcast.
[00:01:32] Together we’ll uncover biblical wisdom and practical tools to help you and your family escape the confusion of this toxic world and walk in the abundant life God has promised. This isn’t about chasing trends or doing it all. It’s about renewing your mind, rejecting broken systems, and embracing God’s design for healing and wholeness.
[00:01:52] The truth is God has a beautiful plan for your life, and yes, your health matters to Him. Are you ready to get started? Awesome. Let’s dive in.
[00:02:02] Angela: Hey, Dr. Z and Mama Z. This is Angela. I’m a long time listener. Love your content, and I wanted to get your tips for a friend of mine. She was recently diagnosed with arthritis and her doctor told her to lessen her stress levels and she’s on prescription anti-inflammatories, but still in quite a bit of pain.
[00:02:25] So I was wondering what tips you might have for her to decrease her inflammation, hopefully lessen her pain levels and really just overall less stress on her body and emotions and mind. Anything that we can do to help her would be just. So appreciated. I appreciate all your content and God bless.
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[00:02:49] Dr. Z new: Hey, Angela, thank you so much for your comment and for sharing this kind of heartbreaking story., First off, we’re praying for your friend, and I think that’s a really big thing that we need to be remembering is God is the healer and God is the provider, and God is the source of all wisdom. And as a long time listener, I’m sure that you share our faith, right?
[00:03:13] Because we’ve been talking about biblical health and faith filled wellness tips for the last 10, 11 years, and always goes back to God’s design. It always goes back to things like peace and prayer and reading God’s word and forgiveness and loving people .
[00:03:33] And research has shown things like forgiveness therapy can drastically improve someone’s pain levels and reduce inflammation just gets you outta that fight or flight mode and reduces cortisol , and that’s just one little thing that someone can do.
[00:03:47] But it’s like, well, my joints hurt. I just had surgery. What do I do? There’s so much. So I first off, encourage your friend to type up the word pain or inflammation or both on our website, NaturalLivingFamily.com, and do a little searching because we have just scores of anti-inflammatory food recipes that are a big thing that someone needs to consider because maybe there’s some food in her life like gluten or dairy, or too much sugar that is triggering inflammation, that’s making the pain worse.
[00:04:19] That right there can solve the problem.
[00:04:22] And then there’s topical things like make your own magnesium spray or a pain relief roll on that includes essential oils like wintergreen, or peppermint, or copaiba, or orange or frankincense. The bottom line is there’s so many options to choose from, and it’s almost too many, and I wish it weren’t the case, but we always recommend that people start with what they can afford, start with what’s readily available and grow from there.
[00:04:49] If your friend has a couple extra dollars and if they want to invest into something that really can help vibration plate therapy. Unbelievable proven since the 1960s. Scores of research studies to help with all this stuff, and that could be something. Or red light therapy or infrared sauna, all of which we have recommendations on our website.
[00:05:13] So again, thank you so much for the question, and I know it’s not like the pinpoint answer that maybe your friend’s looking for, but the bottom line is there are so many different ways for us to manage pain and inflammation. And it starts in the heart, starts in the mind manifests through our actions, and there are a lot of things that we could do.
[00:05:32] All right. , Thanks again for the comment. And folks, if you want your questions answered, just go to NaturalLivingFamily.com/ask and we’d be thrilled to feature you on an upcoming episode. Okay.
[00:05:45] I’ve known today’s guest for nearly 15 years, and I give him huge props for introducing me to a concept that has changed my life, “exercise snacking”, and we’re gonna talk about that in today’s show. Dr. Isaac Jones is one of America’s top longevity experts and founder of the Health Experts Alliance, A global movement helping doctors and health entrepreneurs deliver real lasting results through evidence-based longevity medicine.
[00:06:09] Coined the Doctor of the Future by Jeff Arnold, founder of WebMD Dr. Jones is pioneering a model of care that fuses science, hospitality, and personalized health optimization. He has trained alongside Harvard’s Dr. David Sinclair, and created the Longevity Practitioner certification to equip the next generation of healthcare professionals to help people age well and live fully. Through his concierge practice, Dr. Jones has helped executives, athletes, and entrepreneurs improve performance, extend lifespan, and restore vitality naturally.
[00:06:44] In today’s conversation, we explore how the principles of longevity directly connect to heart health and emotional resilience. You’ll hear how coherent breathing strengthens heart rate variability, the two kinds of exercises most proven to extend lifespan and why short, intentional exercise snacks throughout the day can rival long workouts. We’ll also talk about where peptides and regenerative therapies fit in and where they don’t, and how to reduce hidden stressors in your home and environment.
[00:07:15] Last of all, we’ll discuss AI and how to make safer, smarter health decisions with the tools that are available to us online. Dr. Jones is helping redefine preventative medicine, and when he talks, you’re gonna wanna take notes.
[00:07:32] Dr. Z: Dr. Isaac, thank you so much again, my friend. It’s just awesome to be on this side of the microphone ’cause we’re gonna talk about this in a minute, but I was just on the other side of the microphone for your longevity summit, which was a huge success. Partly because I hope because of my wonderful interview with you about essential oils, but because of your awesome expertise and the wonderful, wonderful group of people that you got behind you.
[00:07:54] So anyway, thanks again for, for being here, my friend.
[00:07:57] Dr. Isaac Jones: My pleasure. Thank you. And you did a great job. I. Such an incredible presentation. In fact, my wife is like, why are you so hardcore into essential oils now? I’m like, I listened to Eric speak for an hour about essential oils that fired me up. So
[00:08:11] Dr. Z: That is funny. Another convert. Well check it off the list, folks. I’m all about natural living evangelism. That’s what I do here.
[00:08:17] But Dr. Jeffrey Gladd and Dr. Rudy Mueller, you what a wonderful event and I really wanna dive into some of the biggest takeaways. You’ve had some major things. You just got home from the Global Wellness Summit in Scotland, you key-noted, which is a huge, huge accomplishment. Congratulations for that, by the way.
[00:08:34] Dr. Isaac Jones: Thank you.
[00:08:34] Dr. Z: You just had a massively successful event that you just helped tens of thousands of people tap into most cutting edge research science on longevity. But before we go into that, I’m just curious. I mean, doc I’ve known you for about 15 years and we have a very close mutual friend. Many people know Dr. David Jockers.
[00:08:52] We actually were in Dr. Jocker’s wedding togethers where we met. Yeah. And out of all the things I’ve seen you do, Dr. Jones, over the years, you could have picked anything, like literally anything to specialize in. You have a brilliant mind. You’re passionate about health. You and your wonderful, beautiful family live this lifestyle.
[00:09:10] But why longevity? Like why did you decide to hang your hat on this topic and devote your life to it?
[00:09:17] Dr. Isaac Jones: Well, I mean, if you look at the topic of this particular summit, which is, you know, heart disease and heart health the reality is a lot of people, if they really do care about preventing these different disease and disorders of the 21st century, we have to actually treat, quote unquote aging.
[00:09:34] We have to address aging. And that’s the aging that happens in your body, not chronological aging. So we’re fine with aging chronologically. We’re not fine with olding, right? We don’t wanna old. We don’t wanna get old. We don’t want our organ systems to get old and our bodies to decay and degenerate.
[00:09:52] So what we now know is all the hallmarks of aging. And we understand the scientific under foundation of why we age. And so now we can actually address these hallmarks of aging and there’s a lot of different hallmarks of aging. And each hallmark actually contributes to heart disease. Each hallmark contributes to stroke and cancer and things of that nature.
[00:10:15] The more that we can address these hallmarks of aging, the earlier you can actually see just incredible results in respect to heart disease markers going down as well. I feel like the more that practitioners get into longevity, the more they realize that this is actually the healthcare of the future.
[00:10:33] It’s the elevation above functional medicine and it’s really where I think most practitioners are going to be practicing for cancer, for heart disease, for Alzheimer’s and then to prevent and optimize health as well for the rest of their lives.
[00:10:49] Dr. Z: That’s a pretty bold statement. I mean, the evolution of functional medicine.
[00:10:53] Dr. Isaac Jones: Yeah
[00:10:53] Dr. Z: is longevity. Like talk a little bit about, this is something I know you really have a good pulse on. Talk a little bit about the financial aspect of this because isn’t this becoming a multi-trillion, or forgive the number ignorance, like, where is this going?
[00:11:07] Because there’s big bucks being put into this industry right now.
[00:11:10] Dr. Isaac Jones: I mean, if you look at it, there’s literally billions and billions of dollars being invested into longevity right now. And you’re looking at an industry that is gonna be surpassing the oil industry by 2026.
[00:11:23] Dr. Z: Wow.
[00:11:24] Dr. Isaac Jones: To be a $36 trillion industry globally. And so that number encompasses a lot of different things. But the longevity industry will essentially be the number one industry in the world. And so ultimately the exciting thing about governments investing into longevity research and institutes and schools you know, investing into longevity research and then private investors, private equity companies, venture capitalists, angel investors, all investing into this is that we’re gonna start seeing some incredible breakthroughs.
[00:11:57] We’re already seeing it right now. It’s just amazing. I tore my knee, I tore my meniscus and ACL earlier this month. And literally, my, my knee is healed naturally because I know the new technologies to heal joint injuries through these different, you know, solutions and strategies. So I think surgery is gonna eventually become a thing of the past.
[00:12:21] I think you’re probably gonna have to still have surgery if you get in a bad car accident or something like that. But there’s a lot of really powerful regenerative technologies and supplements and even peptides and bio regulators that you can take that will help you to really start optimizing the health of your tissues, your cells, your organs, so that you can live healthy longer, healthier and longer lives.
[00:12:45] Dr. Z: I want you to talk just a minute about peptides, because we were talking offline before this interview.
[00:12:50] Dr. Isaac Jones: Yeah.
[00:12:50] Dr. Z: But I wanna highlight something that you just said, which is really key, like olding. I like that. I’m gonna borrow that.
[00:12:56] People don’t wanna age poorly and this is becoming very relevant that our life expectancy is longer now than ever before. And people are aging poorly. And, I could resonate, and maybe you have stories like me, but my grandfather literally died in his La-Z-Boy chair. And for the last 10 years of his life, hunched over could barely walk, just, what kind of life did he live? He was a living vegetable at one point, last two, three years of his life, he was in a nursing home. Like that wasn’t a life worth living. That was aging, right? He died in his mid eighties, like, okay, life expectancy was great, but he literally died at like 70
[00:13:35] Dr. Isaac Jones: mm-hmm.
[00:13:36] Dr. Z: Biologically, right? And so people, there’s a lot of focus. So this, folks, longevity isn’t just about beauty anymore. It’s not about wrinkles anymore. It’s not about the aesthetic. It’s about I want to live my best as long as possible.
[00:13:49] The focus of heart health. We’re gonna cover some Oxford University studies in a minute, but talk a little bit about the science behind and the importance of supplementing with peptides and what this could do for people to help them live well longer.
[00:14:04] Dr. Isaac Jones: I mean, I’ll just give you an example. When I tore my knee I used BPC 1 57, which is a peptide that helps it, it’s like a CA communicator, and they’re like little amino acid communicating molecules that will tell your body to go and heal the tissue. And so my, my tissues, that was part of the healing protocol on top of tissue regenerative therapy and exosome therapy and things of that nature.
[00:14:28] And so BPC 1 57 is great for anybody that is dealing with any kind of pain, if they’re dealing with any degeneration if they’re dealing with any injuries. So that’s really good. Ipamorelin and tesamorelin is really great for people that are dealing with lower testosterone levels and growth hormone levels, et cetera, and they just want to feel like either a man or a woman again.
[00:14:52] A lot of people don’t realize that testosterone is higher every single life cycle than estrogen, in females. A lot of females are like, oh, estrogen is the predominant female hormone. It’s actually testosterone. And so testosterone completely takes a nose dive in the late thirties and into the forties and fifties, during perimenopause and menopause.
[00:15:15] And so, by supporting with peptides, these different hormones especially testosterone, you can feel like your life is coming back. You’re increasing your libido, your skin is feel is looking and feeling better, your joints are not achy, your energy is higher, et cetera.
[00:15:33] So there’s a lot of different peptides for a lot of different reasons that you would take them. There’s a lot of really cool breakthroughs that are continuing to come down the pipe.
[00:15:46] Now with the GLP ones, right, which are the peptides that communicate to your body that you’re full, and you’ve got semaglutide for instance, that essentially tells your body you’re full and people are then losing like crazy amounts of weight.
[00:16:01] I think, I don’t think that’s going away, however, I think the nuance of using peptides in a way that’s more custom to each individual and in a way that’s cyclical, is what the future of peptide therapy is going to be. It’s not gonna be like, “I’m gonna take tesamorelin and ipamorelin and BPC 1 57 or semaglutide every single day for the rest of my life.” You’re gonna use these peptides for a specific reason.
[00:16:26] And so, one of those reasons for semaglutide, it might be to lose weight initially, right? But then the goal is to adopt a healthy lifestyle and shift your behavior and then you can ultimately keep the weight off. Right? Because the reality is, a lot of people in these, these GLP ones, they’ll go back onto their normal, they’ll not change anything between the ears.
[00:16:50] They’ll never change their identity of who they are in respect to their diet, who they are in respect to their lifestyle, and in respect to physical activity and exercise, and so they go back to their old ways and then they gain all the weight back again. It happens all the time.
[00:17:05] And in the meantime, the peptide has caused muscle loss. It’s caused you know, accelerated aging because you’ve lost muscle, which is one of the main indicators of healthy longevity is how well you’re maintaining your lean body tissue and your lung capacity and things of that nature.
[00:17:22] So, you know, the bottom line is I think there’s gonna be more nuance with these peptides. I think there’s gonna be more customization. And then the education and understanding of how to use these peptides cyclically because they should not be used every single day for the rest of your life.
[00:17:38] You know?
[00:17:40] Dr. Z: I’m glad you said that. And we, and I don’t wanna hopefully speak outta turn here, but I you mentioned possibly getting behind peptides, maybe possibly promoting or selling them. Folks, just go to again, go to Elevays, Elevays.com, get connected with Dr. Jones on his newsletter and once he starts pulling this out, because there’s very few people that are really specializing in peptide therapy.
[00:18:00] And you mentioned essentially Ozempic, GLP ones, it is now becoming a heart attack and stroke prevention tool. It’s in the research now, they’re starting, it’s actually approved. GLP ones are approved as a heart attack and stroke prevention approach by the FDA because of what it does to weight and blood glucose. And that’s really scary because now added to the list of things, and you’re right, they’re not going away.
[00:18:25] And if there’s other things we could do naturally. Praise God. We need to really start focusing on non-addictive, non I don’t wanna say natural therapies that don’t have side effects. Right? So…
[00:18:36] Man, there’s so much we could do, and I don’t want this to be a peptide class, but I mean, you know, you recently hosted this unbelievably successful summit. Dr. Gladden and Mueller. I would love to hear just some key takeaways because folks, this is a heart attack and stroke prevention and recovering talk from an opposite approach. Again, I’m not a cardiologist, neither is Dr. Jones. We’ll leave the nitty gritty sciencey stuff that Dr. Jack Wolfson and others that are really focusing on that.
[00:19:03] What we wanna do is cover, you know, how to help prevent heart attack and stroke in other ways that maybe people aren’t thinking. And these are, and you mentioned one thing. About pain. And we know that constant daily use of aspirin, even daily aspirin causes micro arterial inflammation. ’cause what it does to the blood vessels.
[00:19:20] So if you’re in pain, consider peptides. If you’re in pain, consider other things because you know you’re hurting your heart.
[00:19:26] So in that context. I would love to hear some of the main takeaways from this event. ’cause you, you gathered some of the foremost leaders of longevity in the world just drop some truth bombs.
[00:19:38] Again, nothing scripted here, so I would love to hear… yeah, no, your biggest takeaways.
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[00:20:15] Dr. Isaac Jones: It’s good. I mean, we went from the very basic to the most like advanced in longevity and helping people not just again, live longer, healthier, more vibrant lives. But also prevent heart attacks, strokes, and cancer and all the other things.
[00:20:30] So at, at the very core, and this is true for heart disease as well, and stroke, is that emotions play a big role.
[00:20:37] The locked emotions and the lack of addressing past trauma was one of the foundational elements that we talked about. And as we were discussing this it was very interesting to hear the correlation between childhood trauma that hasn’t been dealt with, and trauma during your teenage and early adult years, and how that impacts your health later on in life.
[00:20:59] And it can ultimately lead to heart attacks, it can lead to stroke, et cetera, if you don’t address those kind of locked emotions. And so I, the importance of addressing that with a therapist or going deep and creating a spiritual walk for yourself. You know, I think that one of the conclusions of those interviews was talking about how important social community in the context of spirituality is.
[00:21:24] Prayer, the power of prayer. And also the power of like really addressing these things head on and then forgiving the person or the incident. And then moving on and how important forgiveness is in longevity.
[00:21:37] So that’s a foundational, I would say, thing that you probably wouldn’t expect at a longevity summit. And then we talked about like, you know, I would say a step up from that is just different lifestyle strategies. What are the top lifestyle strategies that impact your longevity the most?
[00:21:52] One is the ability for you to maintain lean body tissue and balance as you age. One of the biggest reasons why people age quickly and then get a heart attack or stroke is because of a fall. So if we can prevent a fall then we can prevent the decline of you know, these other issues that create like a positive feedback loop after the fall.
[00:22:13] Because you’re not moving your body and you’re in a state of injury. And then there’s all these other things that happen that again, lead to stroke, you know, cancer, heart disease, et cetera. So.
[00:22:23] One of the things that was interesting is like, Hey, men and women should be doing resistance training.
[00:22:29] Men and women should be
[00:22:30] Dr. Z: mm-hmm.
[00:22:31] Dr. Isaac Jones: you know, consuming healthy amino acids and consuming a healthy amount of protein to maintain the lean body tissue of your body. And it’s important to know that even as you’re aging, you can, you can be intentional about gaining muscle, you can be intentional about actually gaining muscle mass.
[00:22:49] And then using things like balance boards to help you with your balance, and doing things like novelty training where you go to the gym and you do something different every single time versus doing the same exercise every single time you go to the gym. So that was really important and impactful.
[00:23:07] And then we obviously talked about like the importance of sleep the importance of, of healthy nutrition, the importance of fasting and longevity. And then we went to the more advanced things, right? So, the, the more advanced things is, you know, tissue regenerative therapy.
[00:23:22] I went today to soft wave. You can go to https://softwavetrt.com/ and find a soft wave practitioner that has tissue regenerative therapy. If you have achy joint or if you’ve got you know, any kind of pain in your back, in your body. I even use it on my brain.
[00:23:37] They found in Europe that it actually helps to reverse a stroke and even Alzheimer’s disease because it stimulates the brain in such a way that actually will shoot out specific exosomes in the brain that will help to regenerate the tissues of the brain. And it actually helped to break down kind of amyloid plaque and, and some of the other things that happen within the body. And then it’s very healthy for the arteries.
[00:24:01] They’re actually using it on the heart. They’re hitting it because it breaks down calcification in the heart.
[00:24:06] Before I even knew about this, we were able to reverse an individual in Colorado who had a 90% occlusion of his aortic arch. And he went through my program and he went back to his cardiologist and it was completely reversed. And his cardiologist said, what the heck did you do?
[00:24:25] And what we did was he, we removed heavy metals and environmental toxins out of his body. We got rid of these parasites that were in his body from supplements that he was taking. We helped him overcome the micronutrient deficiencies that he had. We got him on a healthier diet what I call my advanced nutrition plan. Which is similar to like an autoimmune paleo diet.
[00:24:45] Dr. Z: Mm-hmm.
[00:24:45] Dr. Isaac Jones: And then we also got him way cut down quite substantially off of a lot of the meat that he was having ’cause he wasn’t eating enough fiber. And we literally saw within a the course of around a six month period of time, a complete reversal in the calcification of his artery.
[00:25:02] But now you’ve got tissue regenerative therapy. Which you can literally break down the calcium with this amazing device. Like you should see the research out there about it. It’s pretty amazing for cerebrovascular issues, heart issues, et cetera.
[00:25:18] So I used it. Today I used it on my brain. I used it on my knee. And I actually used it on my man parts because it helps to increase testosterone naturally. It helps you just function at the, at a high level from a hormonal perspective if you do that. But that was like a kind of more advanced thing.
[00:25:37] We talked about exosome therapies and how to, you know, create more targeted exosome therapy. So exosome is like a singling molecule to heal the body. And it kind of helps the stem cells in your body migrate to areas that need repair. So it might be your heart, it might be your brain, it might be your knee. And so the importance of customizing that for the individual.
[00:26:02] And lastly, I’d say, we believe the future is really in artificial intelligence and how artificial intelligence will be able to use overlays on a MRIs and cat scans and x-rays and be able to see things that a lot of even radiologists can’t see. That will allow for the doctors to see more comprehensively into, the body.
[00:26:24] And then we’ll be able, I’ll just give you an example. One of the people I’m helping out you know, I’m retired from working with people one-on-one. But like I do help people that are close to me. And I worked with this guy that a lot of you guys would know because he’s a big celebrity in the world and he’s got all these celebrity doctors working with him, doing different things.
[00:26:45] And I put into AI, into this particular like AI, all of this, the medications, the supplements, the therapies that he’s on. And I said, all I asked was, “What are the contraindications?” And the AI spit out this really comprehensive contraindication kind of profiling of all the things that are concerns. And I would recommend that you guys do this with your own medications, your supplements, et cetera.
[00:27:10] I’ll give you an example. This individual is on blood thinners. He’s on cholesterol lowering medication, blood pressure lowering medication, and he was on turmeric, which also thins the blood. He was on Omega-3, which also thins the blood. He was on Cardiolipin, he was on what is it? There was a few other products that, that also thin the blood.
[00:27:29] So it’s like, he didn’t realize he had stacked it so much mm-hmm. Where he has seven or eight blood thinning products that, you know, are very problematic for, platelet aggregation and ability to heal when you do kind of fall down and break a blood vessel or whatever. And that’s one of the things that I was noticing is that there’s blood vessels that he was, you know, breaking in his body that I was like, what’s going on with right now? And then, the AI was the one that pulled all of this together, you know what I’m saying? Within a couple of minutes or a few seconds.
[00:28:04] So I would highly recommend just, you know, all the protocols that you’re into, all the supplements you’re taking. Ask the question, what am I missing in respect to my heart regimen? I’m wanting a natural approach. Or what are the contraindications of doing all of this at the same time? And then talk to your doctor about it afterwards.
[00:28:21] But those are some of the cool things that we discussed in the summit.
[00:28:28] Dr. Z: I’m not even getting into my questions yet. Oh, hold on a second. This is, so I wanna unpack this. I wanna leave everyone with something here.
[00:28:36] Ai, and I’m not correcting you, but I’m gonna add in another way of looking at AI. I wanna, my whole viewpoint, and again, I’m from a Marvel family, right? I’m thinking Ultron, right? World domination. So when people go on AI, they’re thinking the sky’s falling. Computers are gonna take us over like the Matrix. I went through a Vanderbilt Coursera study and I recommend everyone to go through, if you can find it on, it’s really easy. It’s free on Coursera, but the Doctor Jules, I forget his last name, I should remember, but I went through his courses on AI and he said something that was really profound to me.
[00:29:09] He goes, don’t look at it as artificial intelligence, as in computer based, look at it as human augmented intelligence. He goes, what this is doing, it’s allowing you to be the best version of you and it’s helping.
[00:29:23] Like you, Dr. Jones, you literally just hit the nail on the head. It is, has the ability within minutes, to do what multiple doctors could never do within hours, because it takes all the different millions and billions of variables.
[00:29:35] So I wanna encourage everybody to really embrace AI as an augmented intelligence to help you be the best version of you. And with this, this might be the most valuable piece of information you got from the entire event, is utilize AI.
[00:29:51] Put in your protocols, put in everything and say, what are potential contraindications and risks of what I’m doing? And just see, digest, and realize this. It’s not infallible. There is false information or misinformation. Not misinformation, but it can, it, it’s pulling from every which direction, but it gives you a baseline like Dr. Jones clearly laid out. And I’m guessing because this is a…
[00:30:13] You know, we’re preaching to the choir here, mostly speaking. If you’re listening a half an hour into this discussion, you are already probably taking supplements. You probably already have bought peptides because Dr. Jones said so. You are the ideal audience.
[00:30:29] But you gotta be careful you’re not overdoing it and chances are you are. And, and you said something that I don’t know if we can unpack here, but I’ve never heard this.
[00:30:37] You, you mentioned parasites from supplementation? Did I hear you right?
[00:30:44] Dr. Isaac Jones: Yeah, no. I was addressing this individual in Denver’s heart issues. Because at the core we wanna address inflammation, right?
[00:30:52] Dr. Z: Oh yeah.
[00:30:53] Dr. Isaac Jones: Like chronic inflammation is why people are developing a breakdown of the endothelial glycocalyx on the arterial wall that then ends up creating you know, endothelial inflammation that leads to
[00:31:06] Dr. Z: Oh yeah
[00:31:07] Dr. Isaac Jones: the rigidity of the arteries, et cetera. But if you go upstream and you’re like, okay, well what are the things that are driving inflammation. Typically? You know, it’s our diet. Typically it’s stress levels in our our, our lives. Our thoughts can create inflammation which is very interesting. But as well as there’s toxins. So there’s environmental toxins. There’s biotoxins.
[00:31:28] Biotoxins are living toxins like mold and Lyme, as well as fungus and parasites, and so one of the things that, that I address in everybody, because I’m of the belief system that everyone has micro parasites that you can’t really see on tests, that we want to address these parasites. And we want to get the body in a healthier state of functionality you know, on a cellular level. And when you look at the blood you want, you wanna make sure all of that’s addressed.
[00:31:56] And so, what I did with him is I addressed the parasites. Now, he didn’t have any parasites, I tested him for parasites, on his labs. He didn’t have any parasites. But guess what? When he did the parasite cleanse, he had pinworms coming out. That he didn’t realize he had. And so, you know, and it’s very, it was very disturbing for him ’cause he’s this white collar, kind of, guy that doesn’t wanna see worms in his stools, you know? But, but that was one of the things that we addressed and it helped him, you know? It was one of those factors that addressed the underlying levels of inflammation. And Jack Wolfson is a friend of mine, so Dr. Wolfson would agree. Parasites are one of those environmental biotoxins that we have to address. On top of the heavy metals and the toxins in the environment that hopefully will be, you know, addressed as the shifts in the entire environmental protection agency and the FDA are being made.
[00:32:48] Dr. Z: No one’s talking about this.
[00:32:49] Dr. Isaac Jones: Yeah.
[00:32:49] Dr. Z: No one’s mentioning this, which is why when you said it, I’m like, okay, I hope he can just maybe peel off another layer.
[00:32:54] Dr. Isaac Jones: Yeah.
[00:32:55] Dr. Z: What are some things that people are doing inadvertently, that are contributing to the problem? Like what are someone’s risk factors? Is it diet related specifically? Is it like, what changes can someone make to help prevent. That sort of infestation or, I’m just curious?
[00:33:12] Dr. Isaac Jones: I, I think from a dietary perspective, two of the biggest things is the vegetable oil crisis that we’re in. And all of the, even if you go to restaurants and it’s like, oh, this is olive oil. Well, you can say something’s olive oil and still have 49% vegetable oil in it.
[00:33:28] Dr. Z: Exactly.
[00:33:28] Dr. Isaac Jones: Right? So it’s like, and whenever I get olive oil and it’s pale at a restaurant, I will not use it. So I think that vegetable oil needs to be eliminated like a hundred percent.
[00:33:42] The other thing that needs to be eliminated is the processed sugars. Like those two things, right there are two of the biggest things in a diet.
[00:33:49] The third, if I had a third in there, is toxic proteins. I mean, there’s so many proteins out there that are just jam packed, full of vaccines and antibiotics and hormones. Then you’re eating that and it’s like, it’s not good for your heart. It’s not good for your brain. It’s not good for your vascular health.
[00:34:07] So that’s what I would say with diet.
[00:34:09] But a lot of the things that people don’t know, they don’t know is, that oftentimes they’re doing every day that’s promoting, heart disease is they’re in their environment. ‘Cause we want to think about things that we’re getting exposed to on a regular basis in their environment. They’re getting exposed to a lot of chemicals.
[00:34:27] Like, I don’t know if you know this, but the internal environment is far more toxic than external environment. You could go outside of New York City with all the pollution on the streets. And you could go inside of a building into a bathroom that has all these chemical sprays and the fragrance pucks and the urinals and all of these things.
[00:34:46] It’s like that’s more pollution and toxicity in your lungs and your body than you would be getting with the cyclic aromatic hydrocarbons from the benzene rings that are coming off of the, you know, the diesel fuel from the pickup truck that was driving by. Right? So you don’t think about that, but it is truly a big challenge.
[00:35:07] And then when we go into our homes, we’re spraying Febreeze and we’re… That’s why honestly, Dr. Eric, you should be following him because he has literally solutions for everything. And I don’t know what that, that one webpage, is it, you know, that you were sharing with my audience that gets them all of the natural kind of cleaning ingredients.
[00:35:27] But you know what, what is that one? Is that a page that you have?
[00:35:31] Dr. Z: I mean, really, people can go to my website, naturallivingfamily.com, and they could just spend hours. Like go to the cleaning category, go to the body care category. But to your point, yeah, we’ve been devoting our life the last 10 years to this.
[00:35:43] Well, thanks so much.
[00:35:44] Dr. Isaac Jones: Yeah, no, it’s huge and that’s gonna be a big deal, and a lot of people would never think that, okay, that’s gonna cause heart disease, but it does. That’s why whenever I get picked up by a taxi cab or an Uber, I always send a message beforehand and say, Hey, please make sure no fragrances are in the car. You know, et cetera.
[00:36:02] ‘Cause sometimes, like I was in Scotland last week at St. Andrew’s golf club speaking at the old club course hotel. And it was interesting ’cause I’d be going back from the Fairmont to this hotel where I was staying and to speak every day. And it was like every taxi cab driver in England had all these like fragrances.
[00:36:22] And I’m like, it’s here too. You know, it’s like all the way in Europe. So I just, that’s absolutely huge. It’s under your nose, literally, figuratively. and that’s something that I would highly recommend addressing.
[00:36:34] And then I would be looking at the various other kind of like things that a lot of people don’t think about, which is more of the emotional, you know, factors. And I think if you really look at heart disease and emotion like in the connection of heart disease with emotions. Like, what is the biggest thing that can actually impact your emotional health? And its breathing, right?
[00:36:55] It’s how you breathe. It’s the ability to get into coherent breathing, which is six seconds in and six seconds out, and methodically breathing, you know, in a way that creates coherence. And a lot of us don’t recognize that breathing controls our heart rate. So if we breathe in and hold our breath, our heart is getting compressed and our heart rate will actually slow down. If we breathe out, and then we hold, like, hold our breath out, our heart actually starts to pump faster, right?
[00:37:26] So. There’s actually like a, a science behind how we breathe and the impact that it has on the parasympathetic nervous system, which is directly related to your heart. So if you’re always in sympathetic dominance, which is typically when people are breathing quickly and and fast, which is oftentimes connected to their emotions and the way that they’re thinking in a day.
[00:37:49] Dr. Z: Mm-hmm.
[00:37:49] Dr. Isaac Jones: That actually directly impacts your heart health because you’re then in sympathetic dominance. What happens with sympathetic dominance is your heart starts to beat faster. Your beats per minute go up, and then the more your heart, you know, the more you breathe and the faster your heart beats, the shorter your life is gonna be. Right.
[00:38:08] So that’s just, you know, proven in the research as something that’s come up time and time again. And the analogy in my summit that one somebody gave me was a tortoise will breathe once per minute and a dog will breathe around 15 to 20 times a minute. A dog’s life is typically 15 years.
[00:38:27] Dr. Z: Mm-hmm.
[00:38:27] Dr. Isaac Jones: And a tortoise’s life is like 200 years. Right? So, and guess what? Guess how many breaths a tortoise has versus a dog? The same. It’s the same amount of breaths. So if you look at that and you think about your own life.
[00:38:42] The more you can breathe in coherent breath, six seconds in six seconds out, the more you can kind of breathe and control your breath, the more you’re actually controlling your emotions. But you’re also connecting, through your breath, you’re communicating to your heart to be in a state of peace and rest, which is the activation of your parasympathetic nervous system.
[00:39:03] So through your frontal cortex, through your thinking, you can shift your breathing, which can then impact your heart health, which is kind of cool.
[00:39:10] Dr. Z: Well, I gotta remember that next time I’m losing my pickleball match to have six seconds in, six seconds out because my heart’s a racin’. You’re, you’re a Christian, I know you don’t mind me saying that. We share that faith.
[00:39:21] And you keep on sharing…. basically, you’re quoting a scripture in the book of Proverbs that says, A happy heart does good like medicine. A happy heart does good like medicine. And folks, we can’t stress enough this, not theme, but this fact that. Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting someone else to get hurt and just there’s a lot to be said.
[00:39:43] And I wanna ask that you prayerfully consider: out of everything that you’ve heard today, this is free. It won’t cost you a penny. And if you’re willing to spend a little bit of time and work, let me just take a minute and just invite you.
[00:39:58] Just to think about someone who might have or who has wronged you because you have been wronged. By virtue of being alive on this planet you’ve been hurt. And my heart goes out to you if you’ve been abused or traumatized. There’s no excuse.
[00:40:11] Forgiveness is not excusing, it’s not forgetting. And it doesn’t mean you have to have Thanksgiving dinner with that person. In fact, you may never, and that person might be your mother or father. But forgiveness means in our world, it’s letting go and giving it to God essentially.
[00:40:27] It’s just saying, I willingly let this person go. I’m not going to have those negative, hurtful emotions. ’cause what that does, it literally stimulates that sympathetic state that Dr. Jones is talking about. And you can’t breathe the way that he’s telling you to breathe, if you are constantly… you should be at a point where you see that person, regardless of what they’ve done to you and you have peace, that’s when you know you forgive it.
[00:40:50] And there’s other things too. So I would just encourage you to take a minute and be like, you know, this is just between you and you. And it’s literally, you never have to tell that person ever. Consider this because this is backed by research, it’s faith-based, it’s biblical. Every religion that I know of would support this, every faith structure.
[00:41:07] And so this has been such a wonderful discussion, Dr. Jones. Like I wanna just highlight, ’cause again, here I am bringing a longevity expert, but you’ve mentioned you’ve had multiple, multiple cases in your personal private practice that you’ve helped reverse heart disease and help prevent stroke and recovery from heart attacks.
[00:41:24] I wanna just point out one thing, and if you have anything, we can land the plane here. The American, I wanna read a little bit here. The American Heart Association recently discovered that a heart healthy lifestyle is linked to a longer life and, this is the key, and free of other chronic health conditions.
[00:41:40] And, and this is the important thing this is from one of the lead researchers, Lloyd Jones. What’s really important is that people maintaining high cardiovascular health into midlife, through your fifties, you are avoiding those chronic diseases associated with aging. Things like cancer and dementia that we all worry about that isn’t even cardiovascular related.
[00:42:00] So in this mindset, in this multi-trillion dollar industry of longevity, if your heart is not healthy, if you are living a lifestyle that’s high of risk factors for heart disease, for stroke and heart attack, you are much more likely to die. Of cancer, Alzheimer’s, dementia, obesity, and all the other chronic diseases. So at the core of who we are is our heart. And we know that from many which ways. It’s the center of our soul, right? Our mind, our will, our emotions, our heart. So I’ll leave you with that.
[00:42:34] We are looking at literally a life expectancy increase of 5.2 years for men and 6.3 years for women. If you have a healthy heart, by the time you’re 50.
[00:42:45] So give us some tips. How do people get a healthy heart by the time they’re fifty?
[00:42:49] Dr. Isaac Jones: Yeah.
[00:42:49] Dr. Z: What can be done if you screwed up?
[00:42:50] Dr. Isaac Jones: This is like, it’s a great conversation and, I want to make this practical for you.
[00:42:54] Dr. Z: Yeah.
[00:42:54] Because you’re like, okay, well then how do you have a healthy heart? You increase VO2 max. That is the number one indicator whether you have a healthy heart or not. We now know in the research that if you increase your VO2 max, that is one of the biggest predictors of longevity that there is. And so, how do you do that?
[00:43:12] It’s easy to increase VO2 max. So one of the ways to increase VO2 max is through your breathing. So if you can get into coherent breathing on a regular basis, which is what I would recommend is just set your alarm once an hour and then it’ll remind you to just check yourself. Get into that deep, you know, six seconds in, six seconds out.
[00:43:32] And some people that have smaller lungs, maybe five seconds in, five seconds out, some people have bigger lungs, you know, maybe it’s seven or eight seconds in, seven or eight seconds out. And then the goal then is to be slow and methodical.
[00:43:45] Every hour when that alarm goes off, you just like get back into that methodical breath. Do five breaths at the top of every hour when the alarm goes off. And that’s a great way to just, you know, to support healthy heart.
[00:43:59] Now what we know from exercise is that if you get into zone two you can increase your VO2 max. That’s not difficult to get into zone two, but the goal is to get into zone two, according to the research, 30 minutes, three times a week. So that again, is not difficult.
[00:44:17] You could do a brisk walk and get into zone two. You could go for a bike ride and get into zone two, and you’re not talking about sprinting. Right? So that’s a great way to increase your VO2 max. And it, again, it’s not a whole lot of time in the day.
[00:44:30] And what I recommend, you’re typically taking phone calls throughout the week anyways. I would just have a a phone call that you have typically with somebody and just say, Hey, we’re gonna do this as a walking call. And then go for a brisk walk. And take the phone call while you’re doing that. So that’s one of the best ways to increase VO2 max.
[00:44:48] And then obviously doing HIIT training; high intensity interval training can help with your heart health as well. And just kind of access a different level of stimulation around going into anaerobic versus aerobic training ’cause zone two is more aerobic.
[00:45:05] And then HIIT training is more anaerobic where you’re using your creatine phosphate stores and really pushing your glycogen stores fast when you’re sprinting or swimming or whatever.
[00:45:17] The last thing I’ll say is that it doesn’t have to necessarily be complicated. You can do cardiovascular workouts the way that you want to do cardiovascular workouts. Some of you love to row, then row. Some of you like to bike, then bike. Some of you like to ski, then ski. Some of you guys like to swim. You can swim.
[00:45:37] Some people are like, you know what? It’s so cold outside I don’t wanna do anything. Well, you could just walk up and down your stairs. Or you’re like, well, I really like to watch TV all the time. Well set your alarm for 30 minutes to do some squats and walking around your living room, then do some more squats and walk around your living room and, you know, that’s a great way to do it as well.
[00:45:58] The last thing I’ll say from Rhonda Patrick she’s a longevity researcher from University of Southern California, Berkeley, I believe. And what she’s found is that when you do what they call “exercise snacking” throughout the day, and we’re talking about like two to three times a day where you do 10 squats or you do 10 pushups or 10 lunges just three times a day, Right?
[00:46:24] Can be more beneficial than you going to the gym and working out because of the benefit that, that like little short burst of activity creates, and you’re not even sweating. For instance, like 10 squats you could do, most likely without sweating most of us.
[00:46:39] But there is a huge benefit to that. So if you’re like, oh, I can’t go to the gym. Oh, I can’t do this, I can’t do that. That’s fine. You can just integrate exercise snacking into your life. Fitness snacking you could also call it.
[00:46:52] And that is something that can be done in your bedroom, can be done in your office, can be done in your living room, can be done in your kitchen, and is a good way to get some physical activity and good little, we could even call it a heart snack. You know, to get your heart in a healthy space, in the long run.
[00:47:10] Dr. Z: That’s brilliant. That’s straight from the blue zones. Those areas of the world where they have more centenarians and longest life expectancy. They don’t exercise. Their way of life is movement.
[00:47:19] And I’ll never forget, if you haven’t checked out Dan Buettner’s, National Geographic Ted Talk on YouTube and you’ll see millions and upon millions of views. You’ll see a 102 year old woman in Okinawa, Japan, just getting up and down, doing those squats, hanging out, playing with her great, great, great granddaughter, and that’s life.
[00:47:36] And you’re breaking up the monotony. Because sitting down all day for eight to 10 hours is the new smoking. We know. It just absolutely kills your heart, puts you more at risk of heart attack and stroke and decreases your life expectancy. Dr. Jones, this has been unbelievable. I knew it was gonna be. Thank you my friend, and just great success.
[00:47:54] We didn’t even cover half the other things we were supposed to cover, but this was what we were supposed to cover, I believe, and we just went with the flow.
[00:48:00] Folks, check out elevays.com. Get connected with Dr. Jones’ work, be ready for any kind of peptide recommendation he has ’cause he’s my go-to peptide expert and you heard about the benefits.
[00:48:10] And thanks so much for joining us I’m Dr. Eric Zielinski. As always, our hope and prayer’s that you and your family truly experiencing the abundant life. God bless. Thanks for listening to the Natural Living Family Podcast. Hope today’s conversation encouraged and challenged you to live a healthier, more abundant life. Tune in next week for another life transforming discussion.
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[00:48:50] God bless. Talk to you soon.
Quotable Quotes
“We’re fine with aging chronologically. We’re not fine with olding, right? We don’t wanna old.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones“Longevity isn’t just about beauty anymore. It’s not about wrinkles anymore. It’s not about the aesthetic. It’s about I want to live my best as long as possible.” ~ Dr. Z“Testosterone completely takes a nose dive in the late thirties and into the forties and fifties, during perimenopause and menopause.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones
“They’ll never change their identity of who they are in respect to their diet, who they are in respect to their lifestyle, and in respect to physical activity and exercise, and so they go back to their old ways and then they gain all the weight back again. It happens all the time.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones“So, at the very core, and this is true for heart disease as well, and stroke, is that emotions play a big role.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones
“One of the biggest reasons why people age quickly and then get a heart attack or stroke is because of a fall.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones“Parasites are one of those environmental biotoxins that we have to address.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones
“The internal environment is far more toxic than the external environment.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones“What is the biggest thing that can actually impact your emotional health? And its breathing” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones
“A tortoise will breathe once per minute and a dog will breathe around 15 to 20 times a minute…. Guess how many breaths a tortoise has versus a dog? The same. It’s the same amount of breaths.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones“Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting someone else to get hurt.” ~ Dr. Z
“Every hour when that alarm goes off, you just like get back into that methodical breath.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones“The last thing I’ll say is that it doesn’t have to necessarily be complicated. You can do cardiovascular workouts the way that you want to do cardiovascular workouts.” ~ Dr. Isaac Jones
“Those areas of the world where they have more centenarians and longest life expectancy. They don’t exercise. Their way of life is movement.” ~ Dr. Z
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